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(67) Comments... Have Your Say! ~ February 4th, 2010So Nickycakes has come out with his first affiliate industry product he calls LPLockdown. It’s a service that provides cloaking for your landing pages so other affiliates can’t see or steal them.
LPLockdown : The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The Good
We’ll start off with the good here. The things it does for your pages are nice, if you’re not currently doing something like this with your pages, you should look into it. LPLockdown will :
1) Cloak your pages from other affiliates. Cakes has a database of affiliate IPs he’s collected, so when they hit your landing page they’re redirected somewhere else.
2) Steal their traffic if they steal yours. if someone rips your page 100% and leaves your javascript, you can redirect traffic from their page to your page/offer.
3) Uptime/downtime monitor so if your landing page goes down you get a notification.
The Bad
While there are positives to using this service to protect your page, there are cons to this.
1) It’s not self-hosted. And seeing as Nickycakes himself said it’s “by affiliates for affiliates”, do you want to give Nicky (an affiliate) potential access to all of your landing pages?
2) I have a friend who programs and said he programmed the exact same thing for himself in 2 days. Do you want to pay $50/month for something you can pay a programmer a few hundred bucks and have forever?
3) This is interesting…reverse IP lplockdown.com. You’ll find the site 11i.us. Check the WHOIS on that info. It’s Nicky’s actual info. Do you trust a product who was created by someone that can’t privacy protect their own self?
4) It looks like I designed that site the first week I learned Photoshop. The WordArt in the video gives it a nice ‘95 touch.
The Ugly
Everyone is pretty aware that this is NickyCakes’ product. I’ve gotten the chance to meet him and chat at events and he’s a nice guy. Like with all arguing on the internet I think once everyone comes together we realize how lucky we are and the pansy e-fighting that happens doesn’t really mean anything anymore.
Be that as it may, Nicky’s online persona has always been ripping others in the industry to shreds. He rips on the big Gurus like Shoemoney and Chow, and also has torn apart myself (the Goober) and Ubercamp.
So the question is : if he really made this product to “contribute” to the industry, why does he have to charge for it (more so $50/month…maybe $5-10/month would be more legit)? Especially when it’s not anything advanced, it’s like making a blog post about how to track keywords with PHP. Again I’m not a programmer and haven’t seen the backend of LPLockdown, but after talking to friends it doesn’t seem all that hard to just do this on your own (or pay someone to program it for you). I’d use LPLockdown as a fresh reminder that you should be doing your best to hide and protect your pages.
Nickycakes having financial trouble perhaps? Gotta pay those taxes.
February 4th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Just like to note that you’ve never had an account so it’s impossible to say how simple it is (it’s quite advanced). Literally impossible that your friend coded anything like this in 2 days.
If you want to take a look so that you can give an informed opinion, just hit me up. You have my aim.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Sigh, lets break it down, from your site:
LPLockdown has 3 main features: a cloaker, a monitor, and a stolen page hijacker.
The Cloaker:
“LPLockdown has cleverly collected a list of over 150,000 ip addresses of internet marketers from various sources.”
You posted this article about a year ago: http://www.nickycakes.com/how-to-be-a-complete-dick-to-your-nosy-competition/
This consists of around 15 lines of code and can be coded in around 10 mins by anyone whos taken a $50 programming class at community college. You run an affiliate blog, so I’m sure you’ve been logging IPs of anyone visiting your page as well as via affiliate forum signature pixels (which you talk about in OP). This literally takes no work, just time to collect the IPs.
The ‘cloaking’ part is a few simple lines of php/SQL, pseudocode included:
If (ip is in database) cloak
else show affiliate page.
Again, trivial.
The Monitors:
Uptime Monitor:
basicstate.com is a good free one.
or http://www.google.com/search?q=sms+uptime+monitor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
(yawn)
Theft Monitor:
Again, a ridiculously easy service to implement. You have a database of sites for each sheep running your program. This corresponds to a tracking id in the javascript code that you tell them to put on the page. Javascript calls home when a visitor views the stolen LP. If the document.referer of the user doesnt match sheep’s ‘protected’ site, you flag that it was stolen. Prolly a grand total of 5 lines of code for this. Any more ‘complicated’ and youre a shitty coder.
Creative Loss Prevention:
This is basically the ‘Theft monitor’ with an action attached to it. If the document.referer of the user doesnt match sheep’s ‘protected’ site, document.location = new page. Wow. Genius.
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So basically all LPLockdown is a GUI wrapped around 3 trivial service that retards can use to ‘try’ and protect their page (I can provide basic workarounds to any of the above 3 methods if you want). Yes, any decent programmer can code this in a weekend. Go ahead and try and make your service sound more sophisticated than how I broke it down. Just like the Gurus, you have a following that will believe whatever you spew which at the end of the day is how you get paid, so GG. It’s just kinda funny that after all the posts and bullshit about your baller affiliate status, you gotta resort to shitty $50/month subscription services to pay the bills.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
You’ve never used my service, so all of your points are automatically moot.
However, I’d like to note that if it’s so easy to code this, then instead of hating, why don’t you make your own “in 2 days” and sell it yourself?
The many users we currently have are all quite happy with it, including many extremely high-volume affiliates. I’d challenge you to find any of my customers who is unhappy.
Just because I shit on goobercamp and enjoy calling people out when they’re selling bullshit products, doesn’t mean that mine is not a legitimate, useful service. Sorry, champ.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Did you use Ubercamp before you shit on it? How about any of the other handful of services that you’ve crapped on over the years while building your name?
And I’m sure people that use your service are happy with it. People who use these types of products are usually happy with them because they don’t know better. Regardless, that wasn’t my point and doesn’t change the fact that what I posted is correct. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge ANY of the criticisms both here and on WF speaks for itself.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Yes, I used ubercamp before I shit on it. Pretty sure I still have the entire thing mirrored somewhere.
Yes, I used the other useless services I’ve talked about.
If you sign up in the next 10 minutes I’ll throw in some vagisil, seems like you got a sand problem.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Goobercamp helped affiliates more than your service will. Any affiliate with half a brain will just use a proxy when they click an affiliate ad and get redirected to some weird place.
LPLockdown will prevent UBER idiots from copying a page or seeing it. Does it even matter if those tards see the page or not?
February 4th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
I’ve been using the technology behind my service for over a year and I can tell you from personal experience that it is extremely effective. Any of my satisfied customers will attest to that as well.
Please find me someone who thought ubercamp was worth it.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Well if from “personal experience” its effective, them I’m sold. Show me a page that is employing your technology if you can stand behind it. I GUARANTEE I will be able to rip it in 10 mins.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:56 am
*Breaks out the popcorn* heheheheh – this is quite an interesting verbal joust – am quite enjoying this ;-)
February 4th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Hm, shady… http://www.nickycakes.com/how-to-be-a-complete-dick-to-your-nosy-competition/ seems to be taken down… Good thing Google caches the results. Interesting indeed… Perhaps need to save a useful post before it disappears from Google. :)
February 4th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
The goober strikes back! :)
February 4th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
It looks like a good service.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Haha…Nimit Kashyap. It looks like Amit Mehta’s fanboi’s have flocked to the Cakes. Guru status = complete.
February 14th, 2010 at 8:45 am
ROFLMAO!
April 14th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Ya it is a great service
February 4th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
linkbait
February 4th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
OK, so I search for “lplockdown” on Google and see this http://www.jatinmahindra.com/2010/02/04/nickycakes-gains-guru-status-w-lplockdown-sarcasm/ post ranking and yours is no where to be found… I somehow doubt you copied it from that site so I have to assume he did it…
February 4th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I agree, there is nothing special about this product if you know anything about basic coding. Anyways, I’m not sure which is longer the PHP/SQL to perform the “LP Lockdown” function or this comment. ;)
February 4th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
I was waiting for this post, everything you say is true. Can’t believe Nickycakes cashed in on his status, he had a lot of respect in this industry for telling it like is with other products.
Minus collecting all the IPs, I could code this in one session, nevermind the weekend. But I don’t hate on people making green whatever way they can, just thought cakes blog was different. I honestly thought it was a joke when it popped up in my feed reader.
February 4th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Any idiot who uses this shit service is a FUCKING retard
With this service nick is cashing in BIG time first he gets a list of landers and the amount of traffic each lp gets with his java shit refreshing 2nd these retards who sign up not only show him their lps they also giv him $50 for this lol
bunch of noobs
This product probably made more people edit their copied landers more better. Also look at the video do you how many landers cakes as already copied using that website copy app. lol
Cakez Really?
February 4th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
yeah, i name all my stolen landers things like Dexter S3.E4
April 10th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Come on guys, let’s not be calling each other names. Let’s calm down and discuss this in a rational manner.
Till then,
Jean
February 4th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
This product is useless! Nickycakes should be thrown off of Affbuzz. He should go peddle these types of products to clickbank affiliates.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
God, Cakes is such a bullshit artist it’s scary. I called him out over at Volk’s blog already, and don’t feel like posting it again, since ‘Paul’s Friend’ already pwned the fuck out of him and his tool/service. He takes a huge shit on everybody/thing/service/person he fuckin’ feels like. Karma is going to make him his bitch pretty soon.
Basically, this is what will happen if you use this tool: You will be raped, hard. If Cakes was still ballin’ he wouldn’t need to launch a $50/month service like this. I mean, it’s literally 3 or 4 VERY SIMPLE things at one site, and you can’t even self-host it. What he’s gonna do is find out all of your LPs, all of your niches, traffic sources, etc, and then replicate the fuck out of it. In fact, he’ll probably take your own IP and then use it against you to kill all of your traffic and redirect it straight to his pages.
BTW, Cakes recently deleted this post here – http://www.nickycakes.com/how-to-be-a-complete-dick-to-your-nosy-competition/ , that had an actually cool free tool (it’s the cloaker over at LPLockdown). For your convenience, I’ve reuploaded the script here – http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wnntujmojgn – it’s for redirecting an IP list.
Now, if you need a free uptime monitor, use this – http://montastic.com
Need an HTML obfuscation tool? – do a google search for HTML Lockdown, you can usually find it for free.
From my understanding, the JS redirection code he uses on LP Lockdown is fairly easy-as-hell to write, unfortunately I don’t have it now. But fuck, if someone’s smart enough to get your page as it is, it’s easy as hell to edit a line of .js code from the html…not rocket science. Most LP rippers have their designer create something similar anyhow, or just copy the text and redesign for an hour.
This product has SO MUCH potential if it was sold as a standalone product rather than being hosted over at cakes own servers.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:06 am
You’re an idiot. It doesn’t matter how much someone makes.
If you get a solid 100 subscribers at $50 a month, that’s 5 grand a month. Do you even make that much? Probably not. Shut it.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:34 am
…not sure if serious….
but if you are, I make a hell of a lot more than 5k/month. And I already said this would be great as a standalone product.
February 7th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Kamm… is there a way to lockdown a PHP page? For some reason I can’t get the HTML lockdown feature to work on PHP
February 5th, 2010 at 12:42 am
I remember now why I stopped reading affiliate blogs. Useless information. Stop the bickering uber and nicky and why don’t you post some useful information that will help affiliates. Sheesh!
February 5th, 2010 at 2:37 am
You really can’t put a price on security. And although $45 sounds a bit pricey, you have to decide if your security needs warrant it.
Till then,
Jean
February 5th, 2010 at 3:18 am
At $50 per month it’s not a bargain since any programmer can do this for a hundred bucks. That guy seems to be really money-minded. Thanks for the share.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:46 am
This product is a fucken joke. Nickycakes is now more lame then Amit and Chow combined.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:48 am
I have to agree with the statement that this can be coded in a couple of days— but not entirely.
Assuming you have the IP’s already collected, an experienced programmer could code the basic functionality in a couple of days. No doubt. But you would need longer to build the actual infrastructure that handles the membership shit and the other stuff you need for the UI.
But who cares. It satisfies a need. People will pay because they can’t do it themselves.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:29 am
LMFAO, so owned by Pauls Friend :D
And the product is complete shit.
Nickycakes destroyed his name
February 5th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Nicky Cakes you got what you deserve, you’re a big shit talker and this time you got it doen to you, GOOD. Most of the time your’e shit talking was correct, but you have a BIG MOUTH. Nicholas Cakes got what he deserved sorry SUCKA…………….
February 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am
so funny. notice how the skinny boy cant take the heat. Uber, good work mate. Made my day.
oh ok Cakes come back an make some rude comments picking on Uber an everyone else with your school yard attitude, you cant beat this E-ass kicking you just received , oh by the way take your product and shove it up your ass.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Nickycakes is a twat and has always been a twat. Anyone that talks in the third person is a complete fucking retard. He thinks he’s an affiliate god because he peddled rebills when any monkey could do so. Now that they’re cleaned out, he’s scrambling to make some coin… enter LPlockdown.
You can’t shit on everyone in an industry from high up on your horse and expect the same masses to come a runnin’ when you launch a crap product. Go fuck yourself ‘cakes, you’re an idiot.
February 5th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Nicky is the new Amit Gaymehta!
February 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Forgot to say
“Keep It Real” Shit Cakes.
WHAT A CLOWN.
February 5th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Nicky cakes is a small time affiliate… No one doing any volume would create a “little product” like this.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Nickycakes and his boyfriend Justin Newbpree got fucking owned
WAY TO GO PAUL!!!!
Tired of those clowns acting like complete asses at conferences and online, bout time someone shuts them up!!!
PWNT
February 5th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
I love how Clown Boy with his fucking horns waited to get home safe to bust on that Ryan guy from elite clicks.
Who is more the fruit? You Nicky, little wimpy pasty looking queer.
Looks like he had the balls to walk up to you. You posted days later running your lips knowing he was no were around to throw you in a toilet.
I would love to know what “clown hat horn boy” actually said when Ryan walked up to him.
I am sure he wasnt acting tuff , since I dont think he was wearing his Horns at the time.
http://www.nickycakes.com/affiliate-summit-west-2010-recap-part-3-the-drama/
February 5th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
nickycake gets own pretty bad and he come with some lame ass rebuttals, so fuck you nickycake the biggest hypocrite in affiliate marketing, if you wanna sell bullshit products then don’t try to trash other people selling bullshit products.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
lmao
February 5th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
First up I’d like to thank you for being the first person to blog about LP Lockdown and point out some of it’s many flaws.
Here’s my honest review of LP Lockdown:
I’m not going to lie. This tool seems like a useless piece of shit. Why? Because anyone with half of brain could bypass the system.
1. The cloaking won’t realistically work.
A lot of people have dynamic IPs, there’s no way you could acquire a list of all affiliate IPs and affiliate marketers are retarded – if someone really want to view a competitors LP they will use a proxy or VPN. 150k IPs isn’t much at all, and you could easy be redirecting the dumb marketers wife with the credit card in her hand. What’s worse is Adwords reviewers might get added to the IP list, the display url will be wrong and you’ll get your accounts banned for cloaking.
2. The Monitoring? Is he fucking serious?
Any decent host offers this for free, and if they don’t there are free tools out there.
3. Stealing back your traffic?! Yeah right.
What sort of down-syndrome affiliate wouldn’t remove the Java on your original LP? Any affiliate who actually makes money will notice and remove it. Not to mention 80% of people who steal LP’s will just design something similar without viewing the source code.
Just my $0.02.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
he is staying quiet. hoping it blows over. Or he is trying to get a programmer to work on his bomb. Although this will be a great clickbank product. for 29.95
February 5th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I hate how these affiliates have an alter ego online in their blogs or on forums, but in person they are pasty albino losers who are socially retarded.
Yeah, I’m sure they need to market themselves that way to get attention and the Internet does mask all the things you don’t want to show. You can be whoever you want on the Internet.
It’s just funny that people like Nickycakes aren’t even congruent with who they are in real life.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Hmmm, I am not sure where all these landing pages are getting ripped off from these day but if you follow most of the larger ad networks like Pulse360 and such you will know first hand that they do not allow duplicate landing pages at all. A variety of one is fine, but never the same!
I have a feeling that many other networks are going to adopt this same policy simply because of the money being spent in the media buying space, you don’t want to tick off the big spenders right???
February 5th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
eeek.. this is getting crazy
February 5th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Uber, you have served swift justice with the patience of a lion. All this time that loud mouth runs his lips off to everyone he can. Reformed Black hat my ass. He never made any money Blackhatin’.
See yourself to the door and take your stupid NickyCakes Brand with ya.
February 5th, 2010 at 11:07 pm
The thread over at wickedfire is fucking priceless, nicky pissed away every last bit of credibility and good will he had over there. He doesnt even respond anymore, he’s probably just hoping the thing blows over and everybody forgets.
February 6th, 2010 at 5:23 am
LOL! Brutal honesty is something you get 10/10 for! I’ve just come from another blog where there was a massively positive review of LP Lockdown. It seems some people are more interested in making affiliate commissions than in being honest!
February 6th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
2 things…
It would be tough to obtain the database of affiliate’s IPs necessary to duplicate this product. Nickycakes has lured us all into wickedfire discussions (his posts’ graphics grab your IP) and also the chat rooms where he is getting this data.
You are not permitted to have a private WHOIS on a .US domain name. So why are you faulting this? Any registrar offering private WHOIS for .US domains is violating their agreement with the registry and your name can be yanked down with one email to the registry.
February 6th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
It’s funny how many people love this kind of drama. The thread at WF is already 7 pages long…
I’m curious to see how Cakes will respond
February 8th, 2010 at 5:32 am
Cloaking is very important, but I wish I were in a position to need cloaking… that is, be a superaffilliate, which I’m not… However it would be good to have something such as LPLOckdown…
February 8th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Guys why the hating.
Guy made a product and ran with it.
You don’t want it – DON’T FUCKING BUY IT
Pedants
February 9th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Hmm… They’re just hating because it’s fun to pick on a cowardly bully. If anybody else released a lame product like this, they wouldn’t get nearly as much crap for it. I mean, I don’t think most affiliates had issues with anybody selling lousy products when they were getting commissions from crappy re-bill offers right…?
February 8th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Very interesting how this has played out
February 9th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
meh. it looks like a useful product ~ i don’t understand the hate.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
That’s why I love those real affiliates who sit quietly and make gazillions and don’t bullshit around on their Super Caky Duper blogs.
March 8th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
This post has done nothing to change his product or its rep. Valid points from both sides but who cares? Seems like there were a lot of hurt feelings from the past. If I were cakes I’d be laughing my ass off at how angry some of these people are. Mission Accomplished?
February 19th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I’ve never been to either of your websites (Uberaffiliate or Nicky’s) prior to now, but I just wanted to say that you’re fucking retarded. Get off this guy’s fucking nuts. If he wants to sell lucky rocks for $100 a pop, then so be it, douchebag.
I bet you’re the type of guy who subscribes to tabloids because your pathetic life lacks any value.
February 20th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Yah man, I subscribe to ALL the tabloids.
hahahahahah
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
“Tired of those clowns acting like complete asses at conferences”
lol
April 16th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
I’ve followed both of your blogs for the last year or more. Your both affiliates and both businessman trying to make money fronting peoples products and making some of your own. The thing thats irritating is that Nikki bashed “goobercamp” when Paul was trying to make it work. Maybe it was flawed and way overpriced. Maybe Paul was delusional about what he could really achieve, but honestly, I think the dude wanted to provide a worthwhile service and make money. I dont think he was trying to only scam people as the end goal of it. Your cutting him down before it went anywhere was lame, and disrespectful to someone struggling to set up a training program that takes a ton of effort. Now your coming off with your own monthly subscription product that looks pretty questionable for the price your charging. Hmmmm. I thought you were all high moraled and shit? Calling out the scammers and keepin it real with your readers. I dont give a fuck if you sell shit, but if its a little scammy then it makes you look like a little bitch whining hypocritically about everyone else’s business. Anyway, I’ve lost a lot of respect for you.
April 17th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
LP LockDown is smart idea for affiliates but I dont know how well it will do in sales
April 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 am
alid points from both sides but who cares? Seems like there were a lot of hurt feelings from the past. If I were cakes I’d be laughing my ass off at how angry some of these people are
June 11th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Thanks for this review. Judging from the comments and review, it doesn’t sound like it’s worth the monthly fee.
I am pretty much still a newb in this industry but I’ve seen some of Nichkycakes posts in the serp’s. That dude is harsh, if he’s got these so called mad skills and connections, why does he spend so much time hatin on others instead of making more money?
It’s all good though, he can do whatever he wants. If he wants to be known as the bully of the internet or the chin checker, maybe he should’ve picked a different name than “nickycakes”, sounds a little pansy to me.
BTW, if he reads this post, he’ll probably want to flame me too, that’s kinda the point. I need some traffic cause I don’t know what I’m doing and any traffic would be a blessing. ;)